DR: The Senior Manager was supposed to check their phone but they also told me that they have since changed phones and may not have the records. DM: You referred to a message on the 5th August, 2015 between the Senior HDC official and the CJ? DR: I saw that message. He WhatsApped the Senior Manager and then an email followed between the HDC people. I was shown the WhatsApp message by the third party who was neither the CJ nor the Senior Manager. DM: How do you know the message was authentic? DR: The messages, based on where they came from, were authentic. I can’t tell you how I know they are authentic because then you will know who my source is. The Senior Manager also confirmed the WhatsApp messages and the telephone calls that the CJ made to them. …. DR: I reported that he communicated with the PM to make requests for needy people. I did investigate. I was able to verify that the persons whose names I saw on the whatsapp message to the PM all had contact with Kern Romero. ……… DR: There are categories of recommender like “law enforcement” that I am aware of. I would have to double check whether there is an internal policy. I can ask the HDC to forward it to you if I obtain it. The CJ never officially communicated with the HDC. When I asked the Senior HDC official how the CJ would ask to fast track applications they told me “Well he WhatsApped me” The Senior HDC official also said that the CJ would ask for the applications to be “hurried up”. … DM: Does Huggins’ name appear on the WhatsApp messages? DR: Between the CJ and the PM. When some people didn’t get their houses they would call the CJ. I am informed that Huggins did and so too did the Coastguardsman. Romero would take the money and tell people that his contact was the CJ. He would then give the names to the CJ… 31