SACHS J similar argument was robustly rejected by Marshall J in O'Brien.29 On the one hand we have a determinate class of persons, subject to relatively easy and inexpensive administrative control, who have consistently asserted their claims, who are physically prevented from exercising their voting rights whatever their wishes are and who have been given a specific undertaking by the first and second respondents that should the Court so direct, the necessary arrangements would be made for them to register and vote. On the other hand there are speculative notional claims by a variety of other persons who could point to difficulty rather than impossibility of enjoyment of rights, and who have not come timeously to court to assert their claims. We cannot deny strong actual claims timeously asserted by determinate people, because of the possible existence of hypothetical claims that might conceivably have been brought by indeterminate groups. [31] We recognise that, in a country like ours, racked by criminal violence, the idea that murderers, rapists and armed robbers should be entitled to vote will offend many people. Many open and democratic societies impose voting disabilities on some categories of prisoners.30 Certain classes of prisoners were in fact disqualified by 29 Above at para 21. 30 Many countries disqualify all or some classes of sentenced prisoners from voting. In France, certain crimes are identified which carry automatic forfeiture of political rights; in Greece, trial courts are permitted to order such forfeiture on a case by case basis; in Germany, prisoners convicted of offences which target the integrity of the German state or its democratic order forfeit the right to vote. A more common trend is to specify that the length of sentence being served shall determine the forfeiture of the right. In Sri Lanka it is 6 months, in Canada 2 years, in New Zealand 3 years, in Australia 5 years. In the United Kingdom and Japan all persons serving sentences are excluded, while in Denmark, Ireland, Israel, Sweden and Switzerland, all prisoners can vote. 31

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