to gran[t] guardian of the property. But on the other hand, she does know some level of politics and so and so. And she has expressed to me that she wants someone to help her make those decisions and decide between two, a republic[an] and democratic candidate to help her come to a decision. But I just didn’t get that with William. MR. MAGINNIS: I understand. I understand the fin[e] line in which I was walking to almost (inaudible). Although there are high functioning folks who have practiced in say mathematics or politics. He (inaudible) appreciate that and understand that. And with respect to the supported decision-maker a[c]t, generally speaking, that it’s the Court’s view is the only person for whom his testimony is what matters? Or are there (inaudible) considerations that are given (inaudible). THE COURT: Well, definitely the greater focus is on William, for sure. And almost 99 percent I would say, you know. And I’m leaving a one percent, because I never close myself in. But at least kind of to get started, for sure William is the base. Because it even starts with, pursuant to this statute, his express . . . desire. Until he’s able to express a desire, we don’t go anywhere from there. MR. MAGINNIS: It’s an interesting intellectual question with the new statute. I’m trying to clarify with the Court. I understand it now. And I think that particularly in light of the questions that the Court asked, as well as the questions I understand how you might come to the conclusion that he doesn’t have a base level of (inaudible)[.] I understand that. MR. PENN: (Inaudible), I understand that. *** THE COURT: But if you go out here and you find something else, or some case, or something that persuasive, even if it’s not in this jurisdiction, since it is so new, I’m open to a 21

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